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baker was secretary of state and white house chief of staff for george h.w. bush. treasury secretary and white house chief of staff for ronald reagan. and undersecretary of commerce for gerald ford. he joins us from houston. hello, mr. secretary. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, bret. delighted to be with you. >> bret: your sense ofthe election and the importance this time around. >> guest: i think we will see a fairly close election. i endorsed quite some time ago governor romney because i think he is best equipped to dig us out of our fiscal and economic hole that we're in, in this country. as you mentioned in the introduction i was fortunate enough to serve not only as secretary of state but secretary of the treasury. i can tell you that the most important thing about america has been throughout its history, its economy. we can't be strong militarily, diplomatically or in any other way, politically unless we are strong economically. we now have a debt to gdp that is out of sight. we got to figure out some way to deal with that. when he was governor of massachusetts, romney
in wisconsin. they have not flooded the zone here with the candidates the way george w. bush did in 2004. but we certainly expect a close and competitive election. >> bret: joe, back in ohio, you know a lot of people talk about enthusiasm. what are you seeing in the state of ohio enthusiasm wise? >> well, before the first debate, i thought that obama had almost put this election away. but he blew the first debate. it's hard to say how the hurricane impacted that. froze the race in place. there is less enthusiasm for obama this time for sure. romney has more than mccain had in 2008. >> bret: then in north carolina, what about the machine on both sides? >> we have had 1.4 million early voters. the obama organization never closed up shot from 2008. critical in north carolina. one thing that makes north carolina interesting is that it has the largest african-american population of any of the battleground states. >> bret: last word, craig. machine in wisconsin? >> yeah, well, wisconsin is the highest turn-out state of the battlegrounds and it's very organized, engaged mobilized state as we ha
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